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		<title>By: A bi-partisan approach to surgeries? &#124; JamesCousins.com</title>
		<link>http://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>A bi-partisan approach to surgeries? &#124; JamesCousins.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If I have wittered on enough about surgeries the South London Press have prompted me to witter on even more by publishing a story sparked off from the original blog post. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Councillor won&#8217;t see you now &#8211; a Whodunnit &#171; The Local Government Officer</title>
		<link>http://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-882</link>
		<dc:creator>The Councillor won&#8217;t see you now &#8211; a Whodunnit &#171; The Local Government Officer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] he thinks nobody is coming to them and they&#8217;re therefore not much use. He sets out this case here, and provides an update based on both the discussion and e-mails he&#8217;s received [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] he thinks nobody is coming to them and they&#8217;re therefore not much use. He sets out this case here, and provides an update based on both the discussion and e-mails he&#8217;s received [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly wrap-up, 17 July &#124; JamesCousins.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly wrap-up, 17 July &#124; JamesCousins.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] surgery I&#8217;ve been fascinated by the response to my post on council surgeries not least because I&#8217;ve still to have any feedback suggesting the current surgery system [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] surgery I&#8217;ve been fascinated by the response to my post on council surgeries not least because I&#8217;ve still to have any feedback suggesting the current surgery system [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-07-16 &#171; Policy and Performance</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-07-16 &#171; Policy and Performance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Do council surgeries serve a purpose? &#124; JamesCousins.com Councillor Cousins asks the tricky question. My answer &#8211; dunno (tags: councillors Wandsworth james+cousins) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Do council surgeries serve a purpose? | JamesCousins.com Councillor Cousins asks the tricky question. My answer &#8211; dunno (tags: councillors Wandsworth james+cousins) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ingrid Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingrid Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve never been to one - and it&#039;s never occurred to me either.  If I had a problem, I&#039;d probably email.  But there is something about making yourself available.  Like when you sort of had an open question on this blog - it did prompt me to take report an issue to my ward councillor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve never been to one &#8211; and it&#8217;s never occurred to me either.  If I had a problem, I&#8217;d probably email.  But there is something about making yourself available.  Like when you sort of had an open question on this blog &#8211; it did prompt me to take report an issue to my ward councillor.</p>
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		<title>By: Council surgeries &#8211; the debate continues&#8230; &#124; JamesCousins.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Council surgeries &#8211; the debate continues&#8230; &#124; JamesCousins.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m really rather surprised at the response I got to my post on council surgeries. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Naz</title>
		<link>http://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/comment-page-1/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>Naz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James

Council surgeries are an outdated mode of connecting with your constituents, and you will probably find yourself being stood up more in the future. 

One of the key reasons for this is sheer age demographics, 56% (159k) of the population are 34 years or under, a bunch thats increasing more on-line and plugged in than the older generation and just not used to rocking up to surgeries.

Also libraries are unheard of to most peole these days...who visits them anyway...er clearly no one if your video is anything to go by. Libaries, books, newspapers...all that printing on dead trees is old hat. If people aren&#039;t visiting the libraries for books they are even less likely to visit for you.

Another reasons is advertising, people simply not knowing what a surgery is, what a councillor is, exactly what you can do for them. The only place i see an advert for a councillors surgery is on the door of the furzdown project in tooting. Typically a place for the older generation, further cementing the fact that the younger lot won&#039;t look twice at it. You need to be where the problems are.

Maybe you should put something up in GP surgeries, universities, rail stations, coffee shops, or intenet libraries.

Using twitter and having a website is great but i think most people embroiled in a issue with the council simply wouldn&#039;t think of coming to a surgery and escalating it oir asking for advice.

I don&#039;t know about the politics of what you can do with surgeries. But like they say &quot;Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different result&quot;
So maybe its time to tear up the rule book, get out the drawing board, and change....get some feedback...change some more...get some feedback...and may be you&#039;ll get there. 
Do something totally off the wall.


Ok thats my 2c.

Regards
Nazim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James</p>
<p>Council surgeries are an outdated mode of connecting with your constituents, and you will probably find yourself being stood up more in the future. </p>
<p>One of the key reasons for this is sheer age demographics, 56% (159k) of the population are 34 years or under, a bunch thats increasing more on-line and plugged in than the older generation and just not used to rocking up to surgeries.</p>
<p>Also libraries are unheard of to most peole these days&#8230;who visits them anyway&#8230;er clearly no one if your video is anything to go by. Libaries, books, newspapers&#8230;all that printing on dead trees is old hat. If people aren&#8217;t visiting the libraries for books they are even less likely to visit for you.</p>
<p>Another reasons is advertising, people simply not knowing what a surgery is, what a councillor is, exactly what you can do for them. The only place i see an advert for a councillors surgery is on the door of the furzdown project in tooting. Typically a place for the older generation, further cementing the fact that the younger lot won&#8217;t look twice at it. You need to be where the problems are.</p>
<p>Maybe you should put something up in GP surgeries, universities, rail stations, coffee shops, or intenet libraries.</p>
<p>Using twitter and having a website is great but i think most people embroiled in a issue with the council simply wouldn&#8217;t think of coming to a surgery and escalating it oir asking for advice.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about the politics of what you can do with surgeries. But like they say &#8220;Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different result&#8221;<br />
So maybe its time to tear up the rule book, get out the drawing board, and change&#8230;.get some feedback&#8230;change some more&#8230;get some feedback&#8230;and may be you&#8217;ll get there.<br />
Do something totally off the wall.</p>
<p>Ok thats my 2c.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Nazim</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

I&#039;ve never been to a surgery in my life, email, twitter (for the early adopters) and sites like http://www.fixmystreet.com are much better ways for me to connect and report issues to my local council.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve never been to a surgery in my life, email, twitter (for the early adopters) and sites like <a href="http://www.fixmystreet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fixmystreet.com</a> are much better ways for me to connect and report issues to my local council.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That pushes me to refine the problem (and illustrates why I think it would be interesting to have a sensible debate about this).

The council surgery is very reactive.  We are essentially getting involved when the problem has escalated to a level that the resident feels some extra clout is needed.  I&#039;d contrast this with Twitter when I will often intervene, or at least offer help, long before that stage is reached.  If you operate from a basis whereby the earlier the intervention the better, then having fixed surgeries isn&#039;t the best way to do it.

But when you start looking at moving the venue then you have a totally different style of surgery, which is probably going to be far more proactive and each to attract different people.  The library is a fairly neutral venue, to which anyone can go.  BAC is not, and the sort of people I&#039;d meet there would be totally different.  Asda offers a similar problem, in that while there&#039;s a huge passing trade, it isn&#039;t necessarily the right target audience!  To give an example I often help - or hinder - the council&#039;s community safety unit when they do a session there with the local SNT.  What I often find is that I am having to offer generic crime prevention advice because the shoppers come from other boroughs and aren&#039;t eligible for the services the council offers.

That&#039;s not to say that these are bad places, but I think we&#039;ve never thought about what we want to do.  We just &#039;do&#039; traditional surgeries in libraries and always have done.  I don&#039;t think we&#039;ve ever had the discussion about whether we want to continue offering the current  &#039;last resort&#039; surgery, or whether we want to do something more proactive.  And if we were to move towards the latter, then how should we do it, who should do and, most importantly, where would we do it.  Surgeries only really help those in-the-know, and often they aren&#039;t the ones who most need the help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That pushes me to refine the problem (and illustrates why I think it would be interesting to have a sensible debate about this).</p>
<p>The council surgery is very reactive.  We are essentially getting involved when the problem has escalated to a level that the resident feels some extra clout is needed.  I&#8217;d contrast this with Twitter when I will often intervene, or at least offer help, long before that stage is reached.  If you operate from a basis whereby the earlier the intervention the better, then having fixed surgeries isn&#8217;t the best way to do it.</p>
<p>But when you start looking at moving the venue then you have a totally different style of surgery, which is probably going to be far more proactive and each to attract different people.  The library is a fairly neutral venue, to which anyone can go.  BAC is not, and the sort of people I&#8217;d meet there would be totally different.  Asda offers a similar problem, in that while there&#8217;s a huge passing trade, it isn&#8217;t necessarily the right target audience!  To give an example I often help &#8211; or hinder &#8211; the council&#8217;s community safety unit when they do a session there with the local SNT.  What I often find is that I am having to offer generic crime prevention advice because the shoppers come from other boroughs and aren&#8217;t eligible for the services the council offers.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that these are bad places, but I think we&#8217;ve never thought about what we want to do.  We just &#8216;do&#8217; traditional surgeries in libraries and always have done.  I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve ever had the discussion about whether we want to continue offering the current  &#8216;last resort&#8217; surgery, or whether we want to do something more proactive.  And if we were to move towards the latter, then how should we do it, who should do and, most importantly, where would we do it.  Surgeries only really help those in-the-know, and often they aren&#8217;t the ones who most need the help.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really interesting post James and it&#039;s great to hear about it from your side.  Personally, as someone who works 9-5 and on the other side of London, I would never dream of going to a surgery.  I&#039;m much more likely to just call of email if I need something.  I think the idea of a face to face surgery is still valuable but maybe you could go to places where people are going to be (the bar at the BAC, the entrance of ASDA)??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really interesting post James and it&#8217;s great to hear about it from your side.  Personally, as someone who works 9-5 and on the other side of London, I would never dream of going to a surgery.  I&#8217;m much more likely to just call of email if I need something.  I think the idea of a face to face surgery is still valuable but maybe you could go to places where people are going to be (the bar at the BAC, the entrance of ASDA)??</p>
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