Comments on: Do council surgeries serve a purpose? https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/ A (micro.)blog without a purpose. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:08:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: Prove me wrong on surgeries… https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-2378 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:08:12 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-2378 […] By James | Published 20 August, 2010 // While I’ve often complained that surgeries are not that useful I still do them. So if you want to be my first visitor in something like two years I’ll be […]

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By: A bi-partisan approach to surgeries? | JamesCousins.com https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-896 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:02:53 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-896 […] If I have wittered on enough about surgeries the South London Press have prompted me to witter on even more by publishing a story sparked off from the original blog post. […]

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By: The Councillor won’t see you now – a Whodunnit « The Local Government Officer https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-882 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:41:25 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-882 […] he thinks nobody is coming to them and they’re therefore not much use. He sets out this case here, and provides an update based on both the discussion and e-mails he’s received […]

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By: Weekly wrap-up, 17 July | JamesCousins.com https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-881 Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:21:41 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-881 […] surgery I’ve been fascinated by the response to my post on council surgeries not least because I’ve still to have any feedback suggesting the current surgery system […]

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By: links for 2009-07-16 « Policy and Performance https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-879 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:03:32 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-879 […] Do council surgeries serve a purpose? | JamesCousins.com Councillor Cousins asks the tricky question. My answer – dunno (tags: councillors Wandsworth james+cousins) […]

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By: Ingrid Koehler https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-878 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:24:23 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-878 Well, I’ve never been to one – and it’s never occurred to me either. If I had a problem, I’d probably email. But there is something about making yourself available. Like when you sort of had an open question on this blog – it did prompt me to take report an issue to my ward councillor.

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By: Council surgeries – the debate continues… | JamesCousins.com https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-877 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:24:59 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-877 […] I’m really rather surprised at the response I got to my post on council surgeries. […]

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By: Naz https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-876 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:15:10 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-876 Hi James

Council surgeries are an outdated mode of connecting with your constituents, and you will probably find yourself being stood up more in the future.

One of the key reasons for this is sheer age demographics, 56% (159k) of the population are 34 years or under, a bunch thats increasing more on-line and plugged in than the older generation and just not used to rocking up to surgeries.

Also libraries are unheard of to most peole these days…who visits them anyway…er clearly no one if your video is anything to go by. Libaries, books, newspapers…all that printing on dead trees is old hat. If people aren’t visiting the libraries for books they are even less likely to visit for you.

Another reasons is advertising, people simply not knowing what a surgery is, what a councillor is, exactly what you can do for them. The only place i see an advert for a councillors surgery is on the door of the furzdown project in tooting. Typically a place for the older generation, further cementing the fact that the younger lot won’t look twice at it. You need to be where the problems are.

Maybe you should put something up in GP surgeries, universities, rail stations, coffee shops, or intenet libraries.

Using twitter and having a website is great but i think most people embroiled in a issue with the council simply wouldn’t think of coming to a surgery and escalating it oir asking for advice.

I don’t know about the politics of what you can do with surgeries. But like they say “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different result”
So maybe its time to tear up the rule book, get out the drawing board, and change….get some feedback…change some more…get some feedback…and may be you’ll get there.
Do something totally off the wall.

Ok thats my 2c.

Regards
Nazim

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By: Paul Kane https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-875 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:58:41 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-875 James,

I’ve never been to a surgery in my life, email, twitter (for the early adopters) and sites like http://www.fixmystreet.com are much better ways for me to connect and report issues to my local council.

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By: James https://jamescousins.com/2009/07/do-council-surgeries-serve-a-purpose/#comment-874 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:40:25 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=1678#comment-874 In reply to Louise.

That pushes me to refine the problem (and illustrates why I think it would be interesting to have a sensible debate about this).

The council surgery is very reactive. We are essentially getting involved when the problem has escalated to a level that the resident feels some extra clout is needed. I’d contrast this with Twitter when I will often intervene, or at least offer help, long before that stage is reached. If you operate from a basis whereby the earlier the intervention the better, then having fixed surgeries isn’t the best way to do it.

But when you start looking at moving the venue then you have a totally different style of surgery, which is probably going to be far more proactive and each to attract different people. The library is a fairly neutral venue, to which anyone can go. BAC is not, and the sort of people I’d meet there would be totally different. Asda offers a similar problem, in that while there’s a huge passing trade, it isn’t necessarily the right target audience! To give an example I often help – or hinder – the council’s community safety unit when they do a session there with the local SNT. What I often find is that I am having to offer generic crime prevention advice because the shoppers come from other boroughs and aren’t eligible for the services the council offers.

That’s not to say that these are bad places, but I think we’ve never thought about what we want to do. We just ‘do’ traditional surgeries in libraries and always have done. I don’t think we’ve ever had the discussion about whether we want to continue offering the current ‘last resort’ surgery, or whether we want to do something more proactive. And if we were to move towards the latter, then how should we do it, who should do and, most importantly, where would we do it. Surgeries only really help those in-the-know, and often they aren’t the ones who most need the help.

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