Comments on: Robin Hood, Robin Hood, levies a small tax that no-one notices, gives to undefined good causes https://jamescousins.com/2010/02/robin-hood-robin-hood-levies-a-small-tax-that-no-one-notices-gives-to-undefined-good-causes/ A (micro.)blog without a purpose. Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:13:26 +0000 hourly 1 By: James https://jamescousins.com/2010/02/robin-hood-robin-hood-levies-a-small-tax-that-no-one-notices-gives-to-undefined-good-causes/#comment-1319 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:13:26 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=3157#comment-1319 In reply to iheke.

Thank-you for the flattery.

You make (as ever) a very good point, and one that reinforces my central objection, that this is not so much a campaign about raising revenue for any particular issue, or about modifying the behaviour of the markets but about getting back at the nasty bankers.

I always dislike it people criticise celebrities for jumping on bandwagons (even though I did it with my reference to ‘banker/economist Bill Nighy’) because if we restricted opinion or commentary to experts only we wouldn’t be a democracy (or have blogs, though that might not be a bad thing). But this one I really do dislike, no-one really seems to understand even the simplest aspects of it, either the potential benefits or the potential pitfalls and therefore latch on to the marketing message.

As you point out, one of the consequences of tax is to modify behaviour somewhere along the line. I don’t think the tinkering with the VAT rate did much to modify consumer behaviour, but given the lack of price changes on 1 January 2010 I think it did mean that businesses spent the latter part of 2009 adding 2½% to their prices so they could ‘absorb’ the increase for their customers (and hopefully modify customers’ behaviour in January as they took advantage of ‘frozen’ prices). Robin Hood will either change the way the markets work, in which case it will mean a different economy and small tax revenues, or be absorbed as a cost of business. The problem with business costs is that someone, somewhere, will end up paying them.

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By: iheke https://jamescousins.com/2010/02/robin-hood-robin-hood-levies-a-small-tax-that-no-one-notices-gives-to-undefined-good-causes/#comment-1316 Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:10:16 +0000 http://jamescousins.com/?p=3157#comment-1316 I have always hated politicians (present company excepted) who spoke about Tobin taxes because they rarely properly understood the idea. I hate it even more now its called a Robin Hood Tax because its making something that is quite difficult to understand even more unintelligible. The principle aim of these kinds of taxes is to increase the cost for short term investors – in effect rigging the market in favour of long term investors. It is not a cash raising measure per se but a behaviour modifier – or “nudge” if you prefer. It was initially suggested in the context of currency trades to stop the daily dash from one currency to another in search of quick gains that had adverse impacts on the “victim” states – although now, ppl think the idea might be applicable to any transaction where speculators may operate. My principle issue with the robin hood tax is that – if the policy is successful and the rate of the tax set appropriately then the revenue raised under it should be low to insignificant – so why should we promise an insignificant or low amount of money to important good causes? I’m yet to hear a satisfactory answer to this question.

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